Onyx Storm Theory: Violet knows the herbal remedy for…venin?

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Onyx Storm Theory: Violet knows the herbal remedy for...venin?

Say hello to an outstanding Onyx Storm theory which is all about Violet’s poison knowledge. It goes without saying that there are many spoilers ahead so please proceed with caution.

Alright, ready? This theory belongs to Jessica, a lovely fan who commented on my Lilith theory (Lilith Sorrengail was venin).

Jessica’s theory on why Violet knows about poisons

Xaden mentions that when he’s with Violet, he has no control—a notable point since venin need to maintain control.

Could Violet be the cure or antidote to the venin? Interestingly, I researched the violet flower and its uses in Gaelic and Scottish culture.

It turns out violets were routinely used for healing due to their medicinal properties.

This leads me to wonder: could General Sorrengail have been a venin while pregnant and was given a concoction containing violet flowers, prompting her to name her daughter Violet because of that?

Additionally, Violet is skilled at creating herbal concoctions to weaken her opponents before training, a skill she learned from her father.

Could it be that her father knew how to make these remedies because he used them for her mother?”

My take on the theory

First of all, this theory is beyond brilliant. And it would make so much sense. I love it! I also love that Rebecca Yarros potentially named her protagonist Violet with a dual purpose: to be called Violence by Xaden, but also because it’s a frail flower which packs a (medicinal) punch.

I wanted to double check what Jessica said about violets and here’s what I’ve found.

Violet’s name based on a healing flower

Violets have been used for medicinal purposes throughout history, including in Gaelic and Scottish cultures. The violet plant, particularly species like Viola odorata, has been valued for its healing properties. Traditional uses of violets include treatments for respiratory issues like coughs and bronchitis, as well as skin conditions due to their anti-inflammatory and soothing effects. The flowers and leaves contain compounds such as salicylic acid, which has pain-relieving properties similar to aspirin.

Mind blown yet? Me too.

Daddy Sorrengail obsessed with poisons

I have so much to unpack here. We know that Violet is brilliant with poisons. But not as brilliant as Brennan (according to Xaden anyway).

Mira herself says that she never had the aptitude for poisons. “Poisons,” she answers, flicking another dagger at the target. “Never had the aptitude for them like you and Brennan. Or maybe it’s just that I could never sit still long enough to listen to Dad’s lessons.”

And then, even Lilith herself told Violet that Daddy Sorrengail had really taught her everything she needs to know.

“I’d tell you to take arnica and see a healer, but you already know that. Your father made sure you’d know everything you needed or where to find it. You’re all that’s left of him, you know.”

This theory, while brilliant, it also opens up the room to so many more questions. One must wonder why such emphasis on poisons and healing items. Did Daddy Sorrengail (clearly) know that there are venin and potentially his children needed to know about antidotes?

Brennan managed to cure Violet after being stabbed with that poison. Does he know a lot more that he lets on? Is he also venin somehow? (you know I have many theories about Brennan).

Does this mean that Violet’s second signet is NOT control somehow, but she will have a herbal remedy for Xaden? Will it be something like churram? Which is conveniently forbidden.

So many questions and it pains me that we just need to wait until January 21st to be able to read the new book. I pray to Zinal that maybe they will release Onyx Storm faster OR have a much smaller gap between Onyx Storm and book 4.

What are your thoughts?

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10 responses to “Onyx Storm Theory: Violet knows the herbal remedy for…venin?”

  1. So I asked chatgpt for names that meant traitor and the one of the names was Brennan this is exactly what it said:
    Brennan – Of Irish origin, meaning “descendant of Braonán,” which can be interpreted as “descendant of the sad one.” While it doesn’t directly mean traitor, it can carry negative connotations in certain contexts.
    So I kinda got scared.

    1. Honestly, Martina…I just don’t think Brennan is a good guy. He’s always been the “strategist”. Which feels to me like he’s scheming something always. But then again, he did mend the stone. Why would he if he were bad? Does he love Violet and Mira than his desire for something…else?

  2. Ok, it has very big theories and i dont want to finish this series.

    1. me neither….and yet, here I am reading the books for the 10th times…

  3. Tying this theory to a few others on this amazing website…we know violets grow around Basgiath because Xaden leaves them for Violet in the morning after their first night together. It also seems like Violet was prophesized because Andarna waited hundreds of years for her to be born and hatched when she heard the elders talking about the General’s weakling daughter. If Daddy Sorrengail was as aware of herbal remedies and was desperately trying to find the cure to being a venin like we suspect, including his secret research on feathertails, it makes sense that naming Violet after an anecdote for (or at least an ingredient in the serum to control) turning venin would be another major clue he and the General tried to leave for her.

    1. Liz, VIOLETS! OMG. Can I please write this theory? This is beautiful. She is the antidote…just not in the way we imagined. Also, Violet’s do exist. Xaden found some and left some for her…and she’s found crushed violets on her pillow as a threat. Violets are a real flower in the series. HOW DID I MISS THIS???

    2. Interesting fact for you on the eve of Saint Valentine’s Day….
      Before Saint Valentine was executed in 269 AD (history for the win), he penned letters to his lover (his jailer’s daughter) using ink made from crushed violets. I have always wondered if those crushed violets on Vi’s bed were actually a message of
      love, not a threat, left by an anonymous admirer.

      My Hope (but also focusing on the probabilities) for Books 4 and 5: I want to see a strong scientific theme emerge in these books as a balance to magic (we know magic likes balance). The old woman on Deverelli initiated this idea. Yes, she talks about alchemy which is magic based, but I’m referring to “What you call gods, we call science. What you call fate, we call coincidence.” We already know Violet operates this way. Violet is “a creature of facts and logic”, always seeking answers and using evidence to support hypotheses. Her father loved puzzles and left his daughter a giant puzzle to figure out after his death. The threads are already leading in a scientific direction.

      Maybe the cure to being a venin is as simple as a combination of scientific thinking, herbal medicine (to return a person’s brain chemistry to it’s state before drawing power from the earth), and an understanding that the things we tell ourselves (I’m physically weak, I’m not strong enough, I’ve lost my humanity, You will lose your soul if you draw from the earth, I will not die today) become who we are and are strong predictors of where we will end up.

      Where can the idea of science and an herbal/medicinal remedy to the “disease of veninism” take us plot-wise? Instead of talking about venin as soulless devils, we begin seeing them as a victim of disease.

      1. Hi Amy 🙂
        I do like the science approach. I think the cure might just be…violets. I said that before as a cute thing and I honestly think it might be relevant. Papa Sorrengail did leave every bit of information for her. If we remember, even Lilith said that to her “I would tell you to take arnica but your dad made sure that you know everything there is to know about etc etc”
        So I do think her dad might have known about the soul, venin and more. Of course, it’s a fantasy book with magic, and talking dragons, so we can’t imagine that it will all be science without a touch of that very magic we came to love.

        https://www.empyreanriders.com/articles/onyx-storm-theory-we-know-the-herbal-remedy-for-venin-its-in-every-single-book/

  4. I just finished my first and somewhat rushed read of OS and I would say this theory is getting some support. When they are on the island and violet asks about a possible cure, the priests says “perhaps some kind of hybrid offspring.” So building on the Lillith being cannon theory, Violet is the hybrid offspring.

    1. I also rushed read OS and I’m doing a painfully slow re-read in the hopes of finding all the Easter Eggs.
      I think the cure is LOVE. I think she will have to go to the island of love and meet Loial or at the very least the high priests there. They will give her a puzzle to solve and she will realise that SHE is the love of Xaden’s life. She is the cure. Violet 🙂

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